This is a fantastic interview between Bishop Barron and Dave Rubin. Bishop Barron is so adept at explaining the complex nature of philosophy and faith in terms that are easy to grasp. The first four minutes alone contain one of the best explanations of Causality I’ve heard.

Understandably, I feel that many people misinterpret the Catholic faith as a superficial routine based around arbitrary rules. (Mass, CCD, bingo nights, go home back to your normal routine, etc.) I think alot of people get turned off, rightfully, because there doesn’t seem to be any meat on those bones. Where’s the transcendence in Bingo Night? But the true meat of the faith is in it’s deep, philosophical understanding of the nature of truth and our desire for wonder, joy, and beauty. Unfortunately, there are not many people out there that understand this level of the faith and can accurately communicate that in an interview. Bishop Barron doing just that! Amazing.

Also, I feel their discussion about same-sex marriage to be wonderful. Dave Rubin is a known gay man who is married. As much as many Catholics would love to discuss the specific rules of the church as well as the reason behind those rules, that isn’t the best approach when you are actually face-to-face with someone with same-sex attraction. Our goal as Catholics is to bring people closer to Jesus. A discussion about rules will not do that in this situation, especially if it’s the first thing we talk about. This is the Bishop’s point. We have to evangelize first, and show people that there’s so much more to the faith than what they may have heard (because there is). And secondly, that there’s so much more to them than what they have heard. At some point, if God-willing they choose to persue a life of faith, the issue of same-sex attraction will probably come up. But it will happen in a personal way between Jesus and that person and (maybe) their spiritual advisor not between that person and someone who is just trying to win an argument.

Our culture is so red-hot to the point where all anyone wants to do is yell at eachother. The only way we can get beyond that is by trying to become friends. Only in the spirit of friendship can we actually listen to someone who has a different opinion and not immediately hate them. These two men demonstrate just how to do that

The interview was broken up into 2 parts. Here is part 2: